Comments on: Useful advocacy http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2004/02/09/useful-advocacy A permanent record for what's interesting today - this is my live journal Fri, 09 Jul 2010 02:09:00 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: byte http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2004/02/09/useful-advocacy/comment-page-1#comment-138835 byte Tue, 06 Oct 2009 05:11:50 +0000 /?p=34#comment-138835 Home users use Windows because its bundled with their computers (OEM). They can't be bothered to get any updates, etc... (hence the virii outbreaks, and all). If Linux was there by default, they'd use it too. Otherwise, Windows costs so little pirated, folks tend to use it too.<br><br>Promotion? Because Microsoft keeps on promoting against open source software. It's scary, but true. Visit microsoft and see them downplaying OSS.<br><br>You tried Linux (Fedora Core 1 amd64 test1 release), and didn't know how to configure GRUB for a dual-boot system. It might not be perfect (hence the test1), and we expect you to have some GRUB and general bootloader knowledge. An excuse of not being able to boot into Windows again is a bad one; I'd say it was successful - Linux won :P<br><br>Erm, that said, we all work on fixing bugs, really. We need more testers. We need more test platforms. And most of all, we need to get there before Longhorn. Home users use Windows because its bundled with their computers (OEM). They can't be bothered to get any updates, etc… (hence the virii outbreaks, and all). If Linux was there by default, they'd use it too. Otherwise, Windows costs so little pirated, folks tend to use it too.

Promotion? Because Microsoft keeps on promoting against open source software. It's scary, but true. Visit microsoft and see them downplaying OSS.

You tried Linux (Fedora Core 1 amd64 test1 release), and didn't know how to configure GRUB for a dual-boot system. It might not be perfect (hence the test1), and we expect you to have some GRUB and general bootloader knowledge. An excuse of not being able to boot into Windows again is a bad one; I'd say it was successful – Linux won :P

Erm, that said, we all work on fixing bugs, really. We need more testers. We need more test platforms. And most of all, we need to get there before Longhorn.

]]> By: Ruben http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2004/02/09/useful-advocacy/comment-page-1#comment-17 Ruben Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:40:53 +0000 /?p=34#comment-17 There's always more when dealing with you my friend. There’s always more when dealing with you my friend.

]]> By: byte http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2004/02/09/useful-advocacy/comment-page-1#comment-16 byte Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:50:53 +0000 /?p=34#comment-16 Thats because the video card wasn't recognised :) E-mail entering well, seemed like a nice way of doing things so I could respond back to folks with offers, etc... We'll we've beaten this advocacy thread down, there'll be more. *grin* Thats because the video card wasn’t recognised :)

E-mail entering well, seemed like a nice way of doing things so I could respond back to folks with offers, etc…

We’ll we’ve beaten this advocacy thread down, there’ll be more. *grin*

]]> By: Ruben http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2004/02/09/useful-advocacy/comment-page-1#comment-15 Ruben Thu, 12 Feb 2004 05:03:23 +0000 /?p=34#comment-15 Well, I installed Fedora once and it was long and time-consuming and i had to be at the terminal, unlike the WinXP setup. Anyways, I am waiting for this new Linux you said will come out soon that will be really, really good. Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-linux or anything. I just like to irritate you abit. Must enter email now??? suckage Well, I installed Fedora once and it was long and time-consuming and i had to be at the terminal, unlike the WinXP setup.
Anyways, I am waiting for this new Linux you said will come out soon that will be really, really good. Don’t get me wrong,
I am not anti-linux or anything. I just like to irritate you abit.

Must enter email now???
suckage

]]> By: byte http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2004/02/09/useful-advocacy/comment-page-1#comment-14 byte Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:21:52 +0000 /?p=34#comment-14 It wasn't RM1,000 - it was nearly RM3,000, with support. Komnas 2020. They're a bad company, run as a subsidiary of DRB-HICOM, and they don't even understand what the open source model is. They take OpenOffice.org for instance and relabel it as Komnas office, packaging it and never even sharing the spec files with us. Suckers. It's dead because their cost was wayyyyyyy more than what you could get a system like that for at Imbi or Low Yat. Which is sad, because it should have been just as cheap. But folks have to make money, no? Clone PCs if cheaper than a commercial Linux offering, I reckon most would prefer clone PCs and a pirated version of some proprietary OS. Linux isn't hard to install; I've had more success installing it than Windows :P In fact, Red Hat/Fedora have a great tool called Anaconda - it beats Windows XP's setup, since its entirely graphical rather than XP's text-based startup. It wasn’t RM1,000 – it was nearly RM3,000, with support. Komnas 2020. They’re a bad company, run as a subsidiary of DRB-HICOM, and they don’t even understand what the open source model is. They take OpenOffice.org for instance and relabel it as Komnas office, packaging it and never even sharing the spec files with us. Suckers.

It’s dead because their cost was wayyyyyyy more than what you could get a system like that for at Imbi or Low Yat. Which is sad, because it should have been just as cheap. But folks have to make money, no?

Clone PCs if cheaper than a commercial Linux offering, I reckon most would prefer clone PCs and a pirated version of some proprietary OS. Linux isn’t hard to install; I’ve had more success installing it than Windows :P

In fact, Red Hat/Fedora have a great tool called Anaconda – it beats Windows XP’s setup, since its entirely graphical rather than XP’s text-based startup.

]]> By: Ruben http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2004/02/09/useful-advocacy/comment-page-1#comment-13 Ruben Wed, 11 Feb 2004 02:33:01 +0000 /?p=34#comment-13 The government was promoting a really cheap desktop that cost below RM1000. It came bundled with linux as I remember. But now i think its dead, and I don't think anyone would want to buy it. I sure would not. There are a large majority of clone PC users here, like me, and we opt to install Windows eventhough we can install Linux. I tried installing Linux and it was time consuming and a little confusing if compared to the Windows installer. The government was promoting a really cheap desktop that cost below RM1000. It came bundled with linux as I remember.
But now i think its dead, and I don’t think anyone would want to buy it. I sure would not. There are a large majority
of clone PC users here, like me, and we opt to install Windows eventhough we can install Linux. I tried installing
Linux and it was time consuming and a little confusing if compared to the Windows installer.

]]> By: byte http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2004/02/09/useful-advocacy/comment-page-1#comment-12 byte Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:29:44 +0000 /?p=34#comment-12 Home users use Windows because its bundled with their computers (OEM). They can't be bothered to get any updates, etc... (hence the virii outbreaks, and all). If Linux was there by default, they'd use it too. Otherwise, Windows costs so little pirated, folks tend to use it too. Promotion? Because Microsoft keeps on promoting against open source software. It's scary, but true. Visit microsoft and see them downplaying OSS. You tried Linux (Fedora Core 1 amd64 test1 release), and didn't know how to configure GRUB for a dual-boot system. It might not be perfect (hence the test1), and we expect you to have some GRUB and general bootloader knowledge. An excuse of not being able to boot into Windows again is a bad one; I'd say it was successful - Linux won :P Erm, that said, we all work on fixing bugs, really. We need more testers. We need more test platforms. And most of all, we need to get there before Longhorn. Home users use Windows because its bundled with their computers (OEM). They can’t be bothered to get any updates, etc… (hence the virii outbreaks, and all). If Linux was there by default, they’d use it too. Otherwise, Windows costs so little pirated, folks tend to use it too.

Promotion? Because Microsoft keeps on promoting against open source software. It’s scary, but true. Visit microsoft and see them downplaying OSS.

You tried Linux (Fedora Core 1 amd64 test1 release), and didn’t know how to configure GRUB for a dual-boot system. It might not be perfect (hence the test1), and we expect you to have some GRUB and general bootloader knowledge. An excuse of not being able to boot into Windows again is a bad one; I’d say it was successful – Linux won :P

Erm, that said, we all work on fixing bugs, really. We need more testers. We need more test platforms. And most of all, we need to get there before Longhorn.

]]> By: Ruben http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2004/02/09/useful-advocacy/comment-page-1#comment-11 Ruben Tue, 10 Feb 2004 03:25:49 +0000 /?p=34#comment-11 You are really better than Windows? Tell me this. Windows cost so much, and Linux is free. So if you are better than Windows, why do most home users use Windows? And why do you need so much promotion for open source software? You know i have tried a version of Linux under your influence, and had a bad experience. So, in my opinion, you are not better than Windows. You are really better than Windows? Tell me this. Windows cost so much, and Linux is free.
So if you are better than Windows, why do most home users use Windows? And why do you need
so much promotion for open source software? You know i have tried a version of Linux under
your influence, and had a bad experience. So, in my opinion, you are not better than Windows.

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