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	<title>Comments on: FC3 newness talk</title>
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		<title>By: gser</title>
		<link>http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2004/09/09/fc3-newness-talk/comment-page-1#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>gser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2004 04:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The URL u've wrote in your document is invalid :( . http://fedoraproject.org/FC3-re0903.0/ gives out an 400 not found :((. uff, I really wanted to try out fc3 test3 (almost) . eh, some other time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The URL u&#8217;ve wrote in your document is invalid :( . <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/FC3-re0903.0/" rel="nofollow">http://fedoraproject.org/FC3-re0903.0/</a> gives out an 400 not found :((. uff, I really wanted to try out fc3 test3 (almost) . eh, some other time.</p>
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		<title>By: byte</title>
		<link>http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2004/09/09/fc3-newness-talk/comment-page-1#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>byte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VJ, it's not shying away from KDE 3.3. It'll be there. It just so happens that I had around 2 hours to write the talk (people backed out!), so I put my focus on GNOME. KDE will still be there, as will XFce4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VJ, it&#8217;s not shying away from KDE 3.3. It&#8217;ll be there. It just so happens that I had around 2 hours to write the talk (people backed out!), so I put my focus on GNOME. KDE will still be there, as will XFce4.</p>
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		<title>By: byte</title>
		<link>http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2004/09/09/fc3-newness-talk/comment-page-1#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>byte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, NetworkManager screenshots are what GNOME ships (thanks Dan, one of the NM hackers). I didn't realise this got linked to osnews (?), gah, so no, you have to use &lt;b&gt;xpdf&lt;/b&gt; rather than &lt;b&gt;gpdf&lt;/b&gt; which seems to not handle exports from OpenOffice.org correctly. Its an open GNOME bug...

This is a look at whats new in FC3 test2 (especially), and believe me, it can include GNOME 2.8. And KDE 3.3. And from the time the presentation was written, the schedule for FC3 has changed (been pushed back a week).

Remember, lots of things can *change* from now till then. But this is a pretty good idea of the new features out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, NetworkManager screenshots are what GNOME ships (thanks Dan, one of the NM hackers). I didn&#8217;t realise this got linked to osnews (?), gah, so no, you have to use <b>xpdf</b> rather than <b>gpdf</b> which seems to not handle exports from OpenOffice.org correctly. Its an open GNOME bug&#8230;</p>
<p>This is a look at whats new in FC3 test2 (especially), and believe me, it can include GNOME 2.8. And KDE 3.3. And from the time the presentation was written, the schedule for FC3 has changed (been pushed back a week).</p>
<p>Remember, lots of things can *change* from now till then. But this is a pretty good idea of the new features out there.</p>
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		<title>By: VJ</title>
		<link>http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2004/09/09/fc3-newness-talk/comment-page-1#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>VJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything looks nice, except the point that FC3 is going away from KDE. That Desktop that is liked by so many people, around the world, that caused use of Linux in Enterprize through SUSE Linux, Is being badly ignored in all the slides. All the time you talk about gnome and the stuff it is going to provide. 

We are loosing the main focus again, the main focus is not to limit the features to one desktop manager, like sound applets and all sound not have some features that are difficult/not avaiable in other WMs, I mean it should be some simple API that needs to be developed that can be given to any application developer. Only making application ourselves doesn't help much. There may be many Linux hackers who like gnome only, but then coding generically I mean as in API would help. 

Please clarify if all the developments shown like HAL, etc are only going to be working in Gnome or they have some API which could be used by KDE developers to implement there own interface ??

We were planning to have a simple desktop with only ICE WM, in that case will updating to Fedora Core 3 be completely useless to Us ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything looks nice, except the point that FC3 is going away from KDE. That Desktop that is liked by so many people, around the world, that caused use of Linux in Enterprize through SUSE Linux, Is being badly ignored in all the slides. All the time you talk about gnome and the stuff it is going to provide. </p>
<p>We are loosing the main focus again, the main focus is not to limit the features to one desktop manager, like sound applets and all sound not have some features that are difficult/not avaiable in other WMs, I mean it should be some simple API that needs to be developed that can be given to any application developer. Only making application ourselves doesn&#8217;t help much. There may be many Linux hackers who like gnome only, but then coding generically I mean as in API would help. </p>
<p>Please clarify if all the developments shown like HAL, etc are only going to be working in Gnome or they have some API which could be used by KDE developers to implement there own interface ??</p>
<p>We were planning to have a simple desktop with only ICE WM, in that case will updating to Fedora Core 3 be completely useless to Us ??</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2004/09/09/fc3-newness-talk/comment-page-1#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure if you're aware that OSNews has linked to your presentation there (which is how I've found it.)

Very nice report! Thanks a lot!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if you&#8217;re aware that OSNews has linked to your presentation there (which is how I&#8217;ve found it.)</p>
<p>Very nice report! Thanks a lot!  :)</p>
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		<title>By: byte</title>
		<link>http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2004/09/09/fc3-newness-talk/comment-page-1#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>byte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 01:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that. The last time I got an update from Gareth, I think it stood at 3,500 :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that. The last time I got an update from Gareth, I think it stood at 3,500 :)</p>
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		<title>By: Sindre Pedersen Bjørdal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sindre Pedersen Bjørdal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2004 18:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great presentation, just what's needed to get everyone psyched for the new release. 

I did find one small issue though, in the community slide you state that FedoraForum has 3500 members, actually, we have 7800 members now and still growing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great presentation, just what&#8217;s needed to get everyone psyched for the new release. </p>
<p>I did find one small issue though, in the community slide you state that FedoraForum has 3500 members, actually, we have 7800 members now and still growing.</p>
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