{"id":121,"date":"2004-05-04T23:44:20","date_gmt":"2004-05-05T04:44:20","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=121"},"modified":"2004-05-04T23:44:20","modified_gmt":"2004-05-05T04:44:20","slug":"fedora-isnt-doomed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/archives\/2004\/05\/04\/fedora-isnt-doomed","title":{"rendered":"Fedora isn&#8217;t doomed"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>It&#8217;s just got growing pains.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s not that the aims are to <a href=\"http:\/\/advogato.org\/person\/louie\/diary.html?start=108\">create<\/a> another Debian, or even that its to have the <a href=\"http:\/\/advogato.org\/person\/louie\/diary.html?start=109\">size and scope<\/a> of it (i.e. Fedora doesn&#8217;t aim to run on as many architectures as Debian does, not in this early stage at least, till the volunteer base builds up).<\/p>\n<p>A <a href=\"http:\/\/lwn.net\/Articles\/8336\">good summary<\/a> of the issues are even now on LWN, but icon really did portray whats going on. We (the OSS community) know there&#8217;s a lack of communication &#8211; this can be fixed. We know Red Hat is interested in fixing the Fedora Project &#8211; they talked about it at their <a href=\"http:\/\/www.livejournal.com\/talkread.bml?journal=spot&#038;itemid=221466\">world wide conference<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Think about it, companies just don&#8217;t just <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gnome.org\/~jdub\/blog\/1083650774\">open source their babies overnight<\/a>. It takes time. Patience is a virtue, but normally, patience comes when good communication exists, so we&#8217;re back again to lacking communication with the outside world (i.e. those not @redhat.com). The recent outbreak at fedora-devel-list exists because of lack of communication &#8211; read <a href=\"http:\/\/fedora.redhat.com\/participate\/\">soon &#038; eventually<\/a> from the participate page, as thats an attempt at some communication.<\/p>\n<p>So, stop and think for a moment. You want CVS access? Surely RH can&#8217;t give you access to the build system (lest you screw up RHEL, their new RH Desktop, etc&#8230;). We want rh_sales to stop bagging Fedora &#8211; we need our own &#8220;sales team&#8221;, and definitely we need to make sure that whatever brainwashing rh_sales goes thru removes such thoughts. And yes, we&#8217;re always going to have to deal with rh_legal, because this is a project &#8220;sponsored by RH&#8221; &#8211; maybe a public forum for some of the legal blokes to hang out at (fedora-legal mailing list?).<\/p>\n<p>Things are slow, but patience always means good things happen eventually. 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