{"id":196,"date":"2004-08-12T22:24:22","date_gmt":"2004-08-13T03:24:22","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=196"},"modified":"2004-08-12T22:24:22","modified_gmt":"2004-08-13T03:24:22","slug":"localisation-and-its-merits","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/archives\/2004\/08\/12\/localisation-and-its-merits","title":{"rendered":"Localisation and its merits"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So, Sebol asks <a href=\"http:\/\/www.advogato.org\/person\/sebol\/diary.html?start=5\">what has become of the OOo ms_MY project<\/a>? And rightfully so, the lists are dead, the <a href=\"http:\/\/ms.openoffice.org\/\">ms<\/a> project is stagnated, and has been around for nearly a year. Amazing isn&#8217;t it? When there was some remote activity, and a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/media\/openoffice-startechcentral.html\">press release<\/a> was done, it brought on an onslaught from the Malay community on myoss. When I uploaded a website in &#8220;dismal&#8221; Malay, more onslaught. But when it comes to doing work, does anyone? MIMOS thought they&#8217;ll internalise it, since the external coordinator was unreliable &#8211; they even released beta CDs. After that, what happened?<\/p>\n<p>So, the Malay language thing is in the media, eh? Here&#8217;s some <a href=\"http:\/\/www.microsoft.com\/presspass\/features\/2004\/mar04\/03-16llp.asp\">fun reading<\/a> at Microsoft&#8217;s site. The head at Dewan Bahasa has this to say: <em>&#8220;The availability of Windows in Bahasa Melayu &#8212; the most widely used language in Malaysia and in many other parts of Southeast Asia &#8212; will accelerate IT literacy among the Malay-speaking community and help to bridge the digital divide.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Firstly, I never knew BM was widely used in many other parts of SEAsia. It isn&#8217;t, he lies. Accelerate IT literacy amongst the Malay-speaking community and bridge <b>the initial<\/b> divide? Yeah, why not. What happens when they actually need to get 3rd party resources that are usually in the English language? What happens when you need to communicate with the rest of the world? What happens when you connect to the wonderful <b>Internet<\/b>? Get over it Malaysia, wake up, play it with English, or you&#8217;re not going to play at all.<\/p>\n<p>Besides how&#8217;s a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theksbwchannel.com\/technology\/3647300\/detail.html\">cut rate Windows<\/a> going to help? Lower resolution graphics, fewer networking options (worse than XP Home?), and crappy multitasking (3 apps, only). So when on the Internet, let&#8217;s say I run Firefox, and Thunderbird, then I run OpenOffice.org, and that&#8217;s it &#8211; no chance of me editing my digital photos in Photoshop! So yeah, let <a href=\"http:\/\/star-techcentral.com\/tech\/story.asp?file=\/2004\/8\/13\/technology\/8659369&#038;sec=technology\">Microsoft con Malaysia<\/a>; they&#8217;ve already tried with the <a href=\"http:\/\/star-techcentral.com\/tech\/story.asp?file=\/2004\/8\/5\/technology\/8587556&#038;sec=technology\">BSA at work<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, localisation is important. But does it <i>really<\/i> help a small country like Malaysia, where competition with the international market is great?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update:<\/strong> If its really <a href=\"http:\/\/ms.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bahasa_Melayu\">Bahasa Melayu<\/a>, which is widely used in Indonesia, rather than what <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dbp.gov.my\/\">DBP<\/a> push out as the Malay national language, there&#8217;s some merit in this. Language isn&#8217;t the only barrier that Malaysians face, but its one that can be easily fixed if some pride is shed off. 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