{"id":244,"date":"2004-11-25T20:15:36","date_gmt":"2004-11-26T01:15:36","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=244"},"modified":"2004-11-25T20:15:36","modified_gmt":"2004-11-26T01:15:36","slug":"fc3-vs-ubuntu-silly","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/archives\/2004\/11\/25\/fc3-vs-ubuntu-silly","title":{"rendered":"FC3 vs. Ubuntu (silly)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I love <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ubuntulinux.org\/\">Ubuntu<\/a>, but the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.osnews.com\/story.php?news_id=8964\">Fedora Core 3 vs Ubuntu Warty Warthog<\/a> was filled with some FUD.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.redhatmagazine.com\/\">Red Hat Magazine<\/a> really doesn&#8217;t get printed anymore, so you don&#8217;t get a copy of FC3 from there. What users are complaining of kernel panics? Media file problems are normal &#8211; Ubuntu can&#8217;t support MP3&#8217;s either. Networking woes? Fedora never claims to support anything more than ext2\/ext3, it just so happens if the reviewer had a clue, he&#8217;d have realised that booting with <tt>linux xfs<\/tt> or <tt>linux reiserfs<\/tt> is what is used to get those options enabled. Besides which, Reiser and SELinux don&#8217;t play nice, so it really isn&#8217;t recommended.<\/p>\n<p>Come to first booting, and the icon placements and nice desktop integration on Ubuntu. That&#8217;s not upstream GNOME (if Red Hat pulled something like this, goodness, the bad press). Fedora&#8217;s OpenOffice.org does not crash the system when you try to use the spell-checker &#8211; you installed all the languages so it takes time to read it in. Thats OpenOffice.org in general. Does junk mail filtering work in Ubuntu?<\/p>\n<p>Surely the media support on Ubuntu and Fedora is the same. There is no MP3 support or other proprietary codecs &#8211; its all ogg and open stuff, damnit. I&#8217;d agree that the Synaptic integration on Ubuntu is good &#8211; we need that for YUM, hopefully FC4 will see system-config-packages and yum more integrated. <\/p>\n<p>Urgh, why do I bother. 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