{"id":2682,"date":"2013-04-02T04:58:59","date_gmt":"2013-04-02T09:58:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/?p=2682"},"modified":"2013-04-02T04:59:01","modified_gmt":"2013-04-02T09:59:01","slug":"outliners","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/archives\/2013\/04\/02\/outliners","title":{"rendered":"Outliners"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/byte\/8582035666\/\" title=\"Cheongiyeon waterfall @ Jeju by byte, on Flickr\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm9.staticflickr.com\/8093\/8582035666_9c359d25df_n.jpg?resize=320%2C320\" width=\"320\" height=\"320\" alt=\"Cheongiyeon waterfall @ Jeju\" align=\"right\" hspace=\"5\" vspace=\"5\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/a>I started using <a href=\"http:\/\/www.omnigroup.com\/products\/omnioutliner\/\">OmniOutliner<\/a> sometime since 2003. I upgraded to the Pro version in 2006. The software came bundled with a PowerBook I had (so thanks Apple!). This marks my tenth year with the software.<\/p>\n<p>It is an indispensable part of my workflow. I use it daily. The total I&#8217;ve had to pay was for upgrades (some $24.95 and $30 &#8211; so still much less than the $69.99 fee). I can use it when I&#8217;m online or offline as it&#8217;s a desktop app! The one thing that always kept me coming back to OSX even when I used Linux daily was this integral piece of software &#8211; there were just no good opensource outliners.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve always thought that the one thing I&#8217;d like to do in my spare time is write an outliner that lived in the browser. So I could use it on my laptop (online\/offline), or on my tablets or my phones.<\/p>\n<p>So it wouldn&#8217;t be hard to say that I&#8217;m excited by <a href=\"http:\/\/littleoutliner.com\/\">Little Outliner<\/a> by <a href=\"http:\/\/smallpicture.com\/\">Small Picture<\/a>. This is <a href=\"http:\/\/scripting.com\/\">Dave Winer<\/a> writing an outliner for the web browser!\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>However, lately, I&#8217;ve been thinking more about depending on tools that I have some control over. I&#8217;m getting back to my opensource roots even though I write this on a Mac. Big companies shut services down (look at google reader going away), and small companies have it a lot harder.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I want to depend on Little Outliner. I would even pay for it. But I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d pay for it in such that I&#8217;d stop using OmniOutliner, as there&#8217;s a huge TCO gap (even $2\/month makes you think desktop software is cheaper than the cloud). And without payment, I&#8217;m not sure this is a service that will be around in 2023 (i.e. ten years from today). And thats where I <a href=\"http:\/\/smallpicture.com\/questions.html#comment-841032468\">need<\/a> things to be opensource.\u00a0<\/p>\n<div class=\"sharedaddy sd-sharing-enabled\"><div class=\"robots-nocontent sd-block sd-social sd-social-icon-text sd-sharing\"><h3 class=\"sd-title\">Share this:<\/h3><div class=\"sd-content\"><ul><li class=\"share-email\"><a rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-shared=\"\" class=\"share-email sd-button share-icon\" href=\"mailto:?subject=%5BShared%20Post%5D%20Outliners&body=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bytebot.net%2Fblog%2Farchives%2F2013%2F04%2F02%2Foutliners&share=email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Click to email a link to a friend\" data-email-share-error-title=\"Do you have email set up?\" data-email-share-error-text=\"If you&#039;re having problems sharing via email, you might not have email set up for your browser. 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I upgraded to the Pro version in 2006. The software came bundled with a PowerBook I had (so thanks Apple!). This marks my tenth year with the software. It is an indispensable part of my workflow. I use it daily. The total I&#8217;ve had to pay was for [&hellip;]<\/p>\n<div class=\"sharedaddy sd-sharing-enabled\"><div class=\"robots-nocontent sd-block sd-social sd-social-icon-text sd-sharing\"><h3 class=\"sd-title\">Share this:<\/h3><div class=\"sd-content\"><ul><li class=\"share-email\"><a rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-shared=\"\" class=\"share-email sd-button share-icon\" href=\"mailto:?subject=%5BShared%20Post%5D%20Outliners&body=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bytebot.net%2Fblog%2Farchives%2F2013%2F04%2F02%2Foutliners&share=email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Click to email a link to a friend\" data-email-share-error-title=\"Do you have email set up?\" data-email-share-error-text=\"If you&#039;re having problems sharing via email, you might not have email set up for your browser. 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