{"id":3053,"date":"2015-02-03T12:04:11","date_gmt":"2015-02-03T17:04:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/?p=3053"},"modified":"2015-02-03T14:53:09","modified_gmt":"2015-02-03T19:53:09","slug":"here-and-defending-your-trademarks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/archives\/2015\/02\/03\/here-and-defending-your-trademarks","title":{"rendered":"Here, and defending your trademarks"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I read: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/technology-31059897\">Nokia threatens London start-up over \u2018HERE\u201d<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s all about Lowdownapp (I\u2019ve not heard about it before this), made by <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/djsenior13\">David J Senior<\/a> &amp; crew. I think the crux of the problem is that they have also released an app called HERE and Nokia is obviously pissed because of HERE Maps.<\/p>\n<p>Apparently Nokia has spent USD$12m on creating the HERE brand and are now defending it.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not surprised this startup hadn\u2019t heard of it. I\u2019m also not surprised that unless you\u2019ve used a Windows phone, you\u2019ve probably not heard about HERE Maps either. There was a release of HERE Maps on iOS, but I\u2019m sure it never got the attention that Apple Maps or Google Maps got (I\u2019m including Apple here because laugh as much as you want, being a default, really helps).<\/p>\n<p>A few months back, I spoke to an entrepreneur doing indoor mapping, and mentioned to him that Google Maps is starting to encroach on that space as possible competition (he knew that). I then said that the best indoor maps I\u2019d seen so far had come from HERE Maps. He had never heard about it, and he\u2019s deep into mobile and mapping.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a sad fact of life that $12m is money not well spent, because no one at the moment really cares about the Windows phone platform; so if that is your app showcase, you\u2019ve screwed the pooch. To make matters worse, you can\u2019t even find HERE Maps on the Apple App Store today (it was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.engadget.com\/2013\/12\/27\/nokia-kills-here-maps-blames-ios-7\/\">pulled down<\/a> in 2013, but apparently will make a comeback in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2014\/12\/10\/nokia-here-ios-early-2015\/\">early 2015<\/a>). It is still available as a beta in the Android Play Store. I liked this <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/djsenior13\/status\/562149651512819712\">thread between<\/a> Benedict Evans and David Senior, because while its clear that Nokia does have a trademark, and its clear to Benedict Evans since he watches this market, its definitely unclear to the masses that Nokia has anything to do with Here.<\/p>\n<p>Should all startups <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/sybreon\/status\/562050799333675008\">perform<\/a> a trademark search before naming their companies? I\u2019m not sure \u2013 its already hard to get a good name with domain\/social media presence these days. Plus its time consuming (not to mention costly) to do a trademark search in multiple jurisdictions that you care about (or maybe you can use a <a href=\"https:\/\/trademarks.justia.com\/\">service like this<\/a>?). Not something the average startup wants to spend costs on.<\/p>\n<p>Heck, even established companies like Microsoft end up doing a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/article2\/0,2817,2422540,00.asp\">rename<\/a> of SkyDrive to OneDrive to please BSkyB. So it&#8217;s not a startup rookie mistake either.<\/p>\n<p>What happens next is likely that the folks at Lowdownapp will rename their Here app; the functionality I\u2019m guessing will remain the same, it will just be called something different. Do I like it? Absolutely not. However as a bonus, it looks like the app only launched in Dec 2014 so maybe it will be easier giving in to this battle.<\/p>\n<div class=\"sharedaddy sd-sharing-enabled\"><div class=\"robots-nocontent sd-block sd-social sd-social-icon-text sd-sharing\"><h3 class=\"sd-title\">Share this:<\/h3><div class=\"sd-content\"><ul><li class=\"share-email\"><a rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-shared=\"\" class=\"share-email sd-button share-icon\" href=\"mailto:?subject=%5BShared%20Post%5D%20Here%2C%20and%20defending%20your%20trademarks&body=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bytebot.net%2Fblog%2Farchives%2F2015%2F02%2F03%2Fhere-and-defending-your-trademarks&share=email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Click to email a link to a friend\" data-email-share-error-title=\"Do you have email set up?\" data-email-share-error-text=\"If you&#039;re having problems sharing via email, you might not have email set up for your browser. 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It\u2019s all about Lowdownapp (I\u2019ve not heard about it before this), made by David J Senior &amp; crew. I think the crux of the problem is that they have also released an app called HERE and Nokia is obviously pissed because of HERE Maps. 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