{"id":3448,"date":"2018-06-27T19:02:54","date_gmt":"2018-06-27T11:02:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/?p=3448"},"modified":"2018-06-27T19:02:54","modified_gmt":"2018-06-27T11:02:54","slug":"now-a-grabpay-user-the-promo-will-lead-to-inflated-metrics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/archives\/2018\/06\/27\/now-a-grabpay-user-the-promo-will-lead-to-inflated-metrics","title":{"rendered":"Now a GrabPay user, the promo will lead to inflated metrics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There are so many e-wallets in Malaysia now, it sure feels like I&#8217;ve got e-wallet fatigue and I don&#8217;t even spend much time in KL or use most of these wallets. I am more a fan of the AMEX, followed by Visa or MasterCard. Eventually e-wallets are going to have to implement <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bytebot\/status\/1011466254131970048\">merchant fees<\/a> that seem closer to these credit card networks (your rewards have to be paid somehow&#8230;).<\/p>\n<p>I have tried GrabPay before in Singapore where I loaded SGD$20 into my wallet from my credit card. I never did get to spend it. This balance sticks around for when I am next in Singapore. You have a separate e-wallet for Malaysia. I tried to <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bytebot\/status\/1009990923088875520\">set this up<\/a> a few days ago, and they require a photo of your passport or IC to verify your ID (unlike Singapore). I seem to have failed this verification (it looks like an actual human does it, but when you fail it, they don&#8217;t tell you why; not that it matters, it seems you can still use it just fine). Also, Grab is now holding photos of the front of Malaysian&#8217;s Identity Cards&#8230; let&#8217;s hope they never have a data breach.<\/p>\n<p>Today as I was trying to get a ride, a pop-up (potentially the first useful ad I&#8217;ve seen in the adware that is Grab&#8230;) said I could get <a href=\"https:\/\/www.grab.com\/my\/blog\/gpc5\/\">RM5 off 2 Grab rides if I use GrabPay credits<\/a>. So I promptly topped up my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.grab.com\/my\/grabpay\/\">GrabPay<\/a> wallet with RM20 (which came from my credit card), and then paid for a ride with GrabPay credits.<\/p>\n<p>I see absolutely no difference with paying via a credit card. I believe you can use your debit card to pay for your Grab rides as well. There is an argument that <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bytebot\/status\/1011540207538089984\">cards are unpopular in South East Asia as evidenced by this Twitter thread<\/a>, but if you have a bank account in Malaysia, you get a debit card by default that you can use for Grab. Maybe the play is that people will use it for peer-to-peer payments, like when you need to pay a friend for splitting the bill (like Venmo? <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/archives\/2016\/07\/08\/generation-gap-venmo\">Maybe I have a generation gap<\/a>)?<\/p>\n<p>However from a <em>metrics standpoint<\/em>, my desire to save RM5 off two rides (a total of RM10), has made me <em>an active user<\/em> of GrabPay. I loaded up a balance of RM20. Will I be able to bring that balance to zero or does Grab earn interest on my money (like they do for my Singaporean balance)? Will future promotions only apply to GrabPay payments that aren&#8217;t via credit card, but via this e-wallet service? <\/p>\n<p>Yes, we Malaysians, and Singaporeans and probably most South East Asians love a good deal. One of the reasons that Grab probably <em>won<\/em> before Uber exited the South East Asian market was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.grab.com\/my\/grabrewards\/\">GrabRewards<\/a>. If you could expense your Grab rides, participate in the loyalty program, and naturally keep the rebates, why would you ever use Uber?<\/p>\n<p>Measure what matters. Anyway, back to e-wallets. The banks will wake up. The VC money will run out. 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