{"id":1407,"date":"2009-04-04T08:49:29","date_gmt":"2009-04-04T13:49:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/?p=1407"},"modified":"2009-04-04T08:49:29","modified_gmt":"2009-04-04T13:49:29","slug":"behind-the-scenes-advertising-and-pr-bloggers-and-integrity-making-money-while-being-honest","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/archives\/2009\/04\/04\/behind-the-scenes-advertising-and-pr-bloggers-and-integrity-making-money-while-being-honest","title":{"rendered":"Behind the scenes: Advertising and PR, Bloggers and Integrity: Making Money, While Being Honest"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Today at BarCamp KL, I presented a brand new talk: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slideshare.net\/bytebot\/advertising-and-pr-bloggers-and-integrity-making-money-while-being-honest\">Advertising and PR, Bloggers and Integrity: Making Money, While Being Honest<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><center><\/p>\n<div style=\"width:425px;text-align:left\" id=\"__ss_1247494\"><a style=\"font:14px Helvetica,Arial,Sans-serif;display:block;margin:12px 0 3px 0;text-decoration:underline;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.slideshare.net\/bytebot\/advertising-and-pr-bloggers-and-integrity-making-money-while-being-honest?type=powerpoint\" title=\"Advertising And PR, Bloggers And Integrity   Making Money While Being Honest\">Advertising And PR, Bloggers And Integrity   Making Money While Being Honest<\/a><object style=\"margin:0px\" width=\"425\" height=\"355\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/static.slidesharecdn.com\/swf\/ssplayer2.swf?doc=advertisingandprbloggersandintegrity-makingmoneywhilebeinghonest-090404050835-phpapp02&#038;stripped_title=advertising-and-pr-bloggers-and-integrity-making-money-while-being-honest\" \/><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"\/><param name=\"allowScriptAccess\" value=\"always\"\/><\/object><\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size:11px;font-family:tahoma,arial;height:26px;padding-top:2px;\">View more <a style=\"text-decoration:underline;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.slideshare.net\/\">presentations<\/a> from <a style=\"text-decoration:underline;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.slideshare.net\/bytebot\">bytebot<\/a>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/center><\/p>\n<h2>The back story<\/h2>\n<p>On April Fool&#8217;s Day, I sent out a <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/bytebot\/status\/1429107351\">feeler<\/a> to see if anyone was interested in a talk titled &#8220;Advertising &#038; PR, Bloggers &#038; Integrity: making money, thru honesty&#8221;. It seems like the response was positive, and it was to be scheduled on Saturday for BarCampKL. Wow, a few days to come up with a brand new talk&#8230; naturally, I asked people for feedback, and received them (right up till 7 or so hours before the talk was scheduled to be given).<\/p>\n<h2>Preparing for the talk<\/h2>\n<p>On Friday, I posted a bunch of notes that I had taken down in OmniOutliner. I gathered some feedback, and then implemented the whole thing into Keynote (this is incidentally also my first presentation in where I am not using OpenOffice.org Impress, a software package I had helped <a href=\"http:\/\/www.openoffice.org\/welcome\/credits.html#c\">contribute to<\/a> for a significant portion of my life). To boot, I also purchased the Keynote Remote application for the iPhone\/iPod Touch, for USD$0.99. This moves me away from using the usual <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B000E6UM26?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=colincharles-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000E6UM26\">Logitech Presentation Remote<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=colincharles-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=B000E6UM26\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important; margin:0px !important;\" \/>. So let&#8217;s just say all this marked new ground for me, as I got to learn new software in an evening, including using the presenter notes, and so on.<\/p>\n<h2>Giving the talk<\/h2>\n<p>Considering I had never given the talk before, and was winging it based on notes I had created a day before, let&#8217;s just say it was a little rough on the edges, lacking statistics that I would have liked, and lacking graphics that I should have included. I&#8217;m sure there will be a 2.0 version of the talk, if I&#8217;m to give it elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p>I was pleased that the talk had a <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/aizatto\/statuses\/1450051511\">standing room<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/hantu\/statuses\/1450034463\">audience<\/a>. During the talk there was active discussion. That&#8217;s what made it fun. Lots of participants shared their experiences, and it was people representing media buyers, PR firms, as well as the bloggers themselves. <\/p>\n<p>Generally speaking, most people believed that disclosure should be the way to go. There is nothing wrong with making money from your blog, but telling your audience that you are doing so, is a duty to your readers. Its the right thing to do!<\/p>\n<p>Conversation about the talk went on even during lunch, and I seemed to hear lots of positive feedback about it. Its a pity I didn&#8217;t get the whole talk recorded!<\/p>\n<h2>In closing<\/h2>\n<p>Expect a series of blog posts, that are more well thought out, and are logically separated on this topic in the near future. And to think, all this talk started with what I told <a href=\"http:\/\/www.davidlian.com\/\">David Lian<\/a>, a few weeks ago, at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/byte\/sets\/72157616021937205\/\">KLTweetup<\/a>, about how <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/bytebot\/statuses\/1402282551\">I believe Nuffnang will be irrelevant in 2 years if they don&#8217;t change their business model<\/a>. 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