{"id":2669,"date":"2013-03-14T13:34:41","date_gmt":"2013-03-14T18:34:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/?p=2669"},"modified":"2013-03-15T00:17:02","modified_gmt":"2013-03-15T05:17:02","slug":"thinking-about-online-food-delivery-services","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/archives\/2013\/03\/14\/thinking-about-online-food-delivery-services","title":{"rendered":"Thinking about online food delivery services"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UTF-8\" standalone=\"no\"?--><\/p>\n<div style=\"font-family: Arial;\">\n<p>I&#8217;ve been asked many times if some types of startups can work in the Malaysian marketplace. So here&#8217;s a quick braindump on <strong>delivery services<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>When I lived in Melbourne, a bad day was when you had to call Dominos for pizza delivery. I much rather ordered food from the multiple pizza parlours nearby. I wasn&#8217;t limited to them either: delivery of Chinese or Indian food was always available, just a phone call away. It was always useful when you didn&#8217;t want to leave the house or fire up the car.<\/p>\n<p>This in turn helped the local economy grow further. Delivery boys were hired, and many were probably studying. Independent retailers were cherished.<\/p>\n<p>In London today, I see an ad on the tube for <a href=\"http:\/\/hungryhouse.co.uk\/\">hungryhouse.co.uk<\/a>. They claim access to over 3,000 delivery menus. If you get their app, you get 20% off your first order as a new customer who saw their &#8220;tube&#8221; ad (incidentally the voucher code). Naturally they are on the Apple AppStore &amp; Google Play Store.<\/p>\n<p>Just look at that number: 3,000 delivery menus.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m sure you can&#8217;t get all that delivered to you no matter where in London you lived, but you probably do have a good chunk to access. I&#8217;d say restaurants within a 20 minute driving\/riding radius from your location.<\/p>\n<p>London has 6 zones that are covered on a tube line. I never stay out of zone 1 when I come to visit. However friends do live out at zone 3 even and you&#8217;ll enjoy seeing a grocery store, restaurants, and banks in every neighbourhood.<\/p>\n<p>This was similar to how Melbourne was planned. Again, I never ventured out of zone 1, though for a period of time I did live at the border of zone 2. Every local area I was at, was served well.<\/p>\n<p>The Klang Valley isn&#8217;t planned this way, with a lot more connections reliant on lengthy highways. This is probably why food delivery services that started pre-Web-hype usually focused on areas like Bangsar\/PJ, KL, etc. (See <a href=\"http:\/\/www.roomservicedeliveries.com\/Home\">Room Service<\/a>\u00a0delivery who probably pioneered this in Malaysia). They have their riders, they have their usual restaurants within similar areas, and they service you as a third party.<\/p>\n<p>Suburbia is a lot more prevalent within the Klang Valley. Just venture into Alam Damai (Cheras) or Kota Kemuning and you&#8217;ll soon realise that you&#8217;ve hit true suburbia with services that are very lacking.<\/p>\n<p>It is there that you will have to order Dominos. Or Pizza Hut. Or McDonalds.<\/p>\n<p>Those are brands that are synonymous with delivery &amp; take out.<\/p>\n<p>Can this change? Will local &#8216;kedai runcit&#8217; stores (or the milk bars) figure out delivery makes sense? Is it too far fetched to order a garlic &amp; cheese naan, with some tandoori chicken &amp; a Milo with cows milk for delivery? Or a nice claypot fish congee?<\/p>\n<p>Delivery order minimums may play into things but if memory serves, all I had to hit was AUD$10 before I could trigger a complimentary delivery.<\/p>\n<p>So, back to Malaysia and getting food delivered to your home\/office, from places that are 20-30 minutes away. What&#8217;s available today:<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<ol style=\"font-family: Arial;\">\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.roomservicedeliveries.com\/Home\">Room Service<\/a> which pioneered this in Malaysia (I think) wants RM20, with RM12-20 delivery fees (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.roomservicedeliveries.com\/OrderingInformation\">source<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.foodpanda.my\/\">foodpanda<\/a> from Rocket Internet. 60 minutes delivery time, RM4-6 delivery fee, RM10-15 minimum order value<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>In the US, there seems to be <a href=\"http:\/\/www.grubhub.com\/\">GrubHub<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/eat24.com\/\">Eat24<\/a>, etc. In the UK, there&#8217;s Just Eat, niftynosh, etc.<\/p>\n<p>What about payments?\u00a0Room Service accepts visa\/master\/amex or cash.<\/p>\n<p>The next time I have some time in Malaysia, I probably will give Room Service or foodpanda a try. Just to see how it works. I do see that their delivery areas are limited, which is naturally sad as it doesn&#8217;t cover the whole Klang Valley.<\/p>\n<p>Can this work in Malaysia? Do people eat-in that often? How do you fix the location issue? When do we see more of the middlemen being cut out? Is it a good idea to go into business as a middleman like Room Service\/foodpanda?\u00a0How does this dynamic work when people don&#8217;t leave their homes, i.e. staying with their families even after marriage?<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t have the answers, and apparently this hasn&#8217;t been cracked since 2003 (when roomservice started).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve been asked many times if some types of startups can work in the Malaysian marketplace. So here&#8217;s a quick braindump on delivery services. When I lived in Melbourne, a bad day was when you had to call Dominos for pizza delivery. I much rather ordered food from the multiple pizza parlours nearby. 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