{"id":3474,"date":"2019-04-02T16:39:19","date_gmt":"2019-04-02T08:39:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/?p=3474"},"modified":"2019-04-02T16:40:39","modified_gmt":"2019-04-02T08:40:39","slug":"lyft-and-the-bet-on-the-millennial-mindset","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/archives\/2019\/04\/02\/lyft-and-the-bet-on-the-millennial-mindset","title":{"rendered":"Lyft and the bet on the millennial mindset"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve been following Lyft going public, and its clearly nuts. For an analysis of the S1, do read some Fred Wilson: <a href=\"https:\/\/avc.com\/2019\/03\/the-ipo-price-and-the-s1\/\">The IPO Price and the S1<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>My belief is that people are excited by tech IPOs, rather than the prospects of Lyft. When is it expected to be profitable? Do not use the Amazon argument, one is an <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2OJiG6g\">Everything Store<\/a> (a great read by Brad Stone), and the other is a provider of transport in <em>limited markets<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Personal journey with Lyft: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bytebot\/status\/575918414230786049\">had not installed it in March 2015<\/a>, still not in <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bytebot\/status\/728761174175539200\">May 2016<\/a>, tried it (i.e. downloaded it) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bytebot\/status\/749724965222674435\">July 2016<\/a> and deleted it a week later! There was at some stage a partnership where you could order a Lyft from within the Grab app, but that never worked (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bytebot\/status\/749725421483225088\">July 2016<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bytebot\/status\/843648653575127041\">March 2017<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>What helped Lyft grow might have been the #DeleteUber campaign of 2017, though I still continued to use Uber. It was quite <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bytebot\/status\/876703306906611712\">prevalent in San Francisco<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bytebot\/status\/988234325480034304\">Uber rates going up 10% in San Francisco<\/a> still failed to push me to become a Lyft user.<\/p>\n<p>However, a16z was betting on the \u201cmillennial mindset\u201d when they poured money into Lyft, read their <a href=\"https:\/\/a16z.com\/2015\/03\/12\/lyft\/\">thesis\/blog post<\/a>. As I said in <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bytebot\/status\/576186749409431553\">2015<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThe bet on Lyft has always been that ridesharing wins\u201d read the investment thesis. A real bet on \u201cmillenial mindset\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Did it pan out well? Sure, millennials on the Robinhood app traded it a lot upon IPO. San Francisco folk (maybe with some virtue signalling?) traded it 3x more than those in New York City. Fascinating piece in Axios: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.axios.com\/how-millennial-investors-reacted-lyfts-ipo-a6076d96-9db5-4a22-84db-67f36de7a00d.html\">How millennial investors reacted to Lyft\u2019s IPO<\/a>. Maybe millennials treat Lyft (and tech IPOs?) like cryptoasset <em>investing<\/em>?<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, FT has covered it best: <em>But today, it seems Mr Market has woken up to realise Lyft is trading at 10x sales with negative 44.3 per cent ebitda margins and is operating in a market with no proof of profits.<\/em> in <a href=\"https:\/\/ftalphaville.ft.com\/2019\/04\/01\/1554129176000\/Lyft-is-nuts--and-it-s-crashing-\/\">Lyft is nuts, and it\u2019s crashing.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The future will be very exciting, I expect more consolidation in this space (don\u2019t all long tentacles go back to SoftBank?). If you have access to The Information, they\u2019ve got an exclusive on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theinformation.com\/articles\/lyfts-biggest-ipo-winners\">Lyft\u2019s Biggest IPO Winners<\/a>. Just one highlight:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>Sean Aggarwal, Lyft\u2019s first outside investor, who put in $30,000 in 2007 and has a stake now worth $100 million. The biggest venture capital winner may be Floodgate Ventures, a seed investor which has seen a nearly 10,000% return on its roughly $1 million investment. Then there is Mayfield Fund, which invested a total of nearly $15 million in the first four venture rounds, giving it a stake likely to be worth about $600 million at the IPO.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"sharedaddy sd-sharing-enabled\"><div class=\"robots-nocontent sd-block sd-social sd-social-icon-text sd-sharing\"><h3 class=\"sd-title\">Share this:<\/h3><div class=\"sd-content\"><ul><li class=\"share-email\"><a rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-shared=\"\" class=\"share-email sd-button share-icon\" href=\"mailto:?subject=%5BShared%20Post%5D%20Lyft%20and%20the%20bet%20on%20the%20millennial%20mindset&body=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bytebot.net%2Fblog%2Farchives%2F2019%2F04%2F02%2Flyft-and-the-bet-on-the-millennial-mindset&share=email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Click to email a link to a friend\" data-email-share-error-title=\"Do you have email set up?\" data-email-share-error-text=\"If you&#039;re having problems sharing via email, you might not have email set up for your browser. 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For an analysis of the S1, do read some Fred Wilson: The IPO Price and the S1. My belief is that people are excited by tech IPOs, rather than the prospects of Lyft. When is it expected to be profitable? 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