{"id":659,"date":"2007-11-08T10:01:17","date_gmt":"2007-11-08T15:01:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/archives\/2007\/11\/08\/why-i-liked-ubuntu-and-my-thoughts-on-gutsy-werewolf-aka-fedora-8"},"modified":"2007-11-08T10:04:56","modified_gmt":"2007-11-08T15:04:56","slug":"why-i-liked-ubuntu-and-my-thoughts-on-gutsy-werewolf-aka-fedora-8","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/archives\/2007\/11\/08\/why-i-liked-ubuntu-and-my-thoughts-on-gutsy-werewolf-aka-fedora-8","title":{"rendered":"Why I liked Ubuntu (and my thoughts on Gutsy Werewolf, aka Fedora 8)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of the reasons <em>I like<\/em> Ubuntu is because they have a really swanky commercial repository, and they make it <em>easy<\/em> for me to get some commercial software, without pulling an RMS-styled &#8220;Freedom is a feature&#8221; on me. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I still love Fedora with all my heart, but when you get out of the distribution business per se, you feel that you might just want your primary machine to &#8220;Just Work&#8221;(tm). And long gone are the days where I carry 2-3 laptops when I travel &#8211; I just aim for one (I have lots of photo gear to worry about, instead).<\/p>\n<p>The Feisty Fawn, was a pretty good Ubuntu release. That is, I got my commercial software fix &#8211; Sun&#8217;s JDK (moot these days, hello IcedTea in Fedora, for instance), VMWare Server (its free, kind of useful for running other distributions), and even Opera (sometimes I&#8217;m bored with Firefox, Galeon, Epiphany, I need to test things in another browser).<\/p>\n<p>When Gutsy Gibbon got released, I couldn&#8217;t wait to update to the next, best thing. You expect things to move forward, never regress right?<\/p>\n<p>Well, Sun&#8217;s software still works. As does Opera. But VMWare, has since, stopped working. Kernel 2.6.22-14 does not come with appropriate VMWare modules. Yes, that means, there&#8217;s no <tt>vmmon<\/tt> or <tt>vmnet<\/tt> loaded (or even, loadable, to be exact). Effectively, they&#8217;ve broken VMWare. I wondered why, so I hopped on to a <a href=\"http:\/\/packages.ubuntu.com\/cgi-bin\/search_packages.pl?keywords=vmware&amp;searchon=names&amp;subword=1&amp;version=gutsy&amp;release=all\">package search<\/a>, only to find out that VMWare has been <em><strong>removed<\/strong><\/em> from the commercial repository. No real explanation that I can find as to why it doesn&#8217;t exist.<\/p>\n<p>So, my next option is to maybe build-my-own-package. There&#8217;s a guide titled <a href=\"http:\/\/igordevlog.blogspot.com\/2007\/07\/vmware-in-ubuntu-gutsy-kernel-2622.html\">VMWare in Ubuntu Gutsy &#8211; Kernel 2.6.22<\/a> that might be a good read for those that want to use this. Then I recall why I moved to using Ubuntu daily &#8211; I did it to <em>get away<\/em> from the frustration of having to build things myself. I did it, for the &#8220;Just Works&#8221;(tm) experience.<\/p>\n<p>My options are to move to using some free software, quite obviously. There&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/help.ubuntu.com\/community\/KVM\">KVM<\/a>, Xen, or even VirtualBox. Hey wait a minute, I can get all this in Fedora 8 too, can&#8217;t I?<\/p>\n<p>The Gutsy Gibbon was supposed to come with a rocking new tool, <tt>displayconfig-gtk<\/tt> (i.e. System -&gt; Administration -&gt; Screen and Graphics). Unfortunately, it is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bytebot.net\/blog\/archives\/2007\/10\/21\/dual-display-with-the-intel-945gm-on-gutsy-gibbon\"><em><strong>broken<\/strong><\/em><\/a> beyond all thought. Then I remember an old friend, system-config-display, from Fedora &#8211; at least it works, and it has been around for ages (since what, Red Hat 8?). <tt>displayconfig-gtk<\/tt> is supposed to give me all the wonderful hotplug goodness of an external display, but it doesn&#8217;t. I can manually push <tt>xrandr<\/tt> to at least mirror my display (Intel chipset, might I add), which I&#8217;m sure I can also do in Fedora 8.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So I&#8217;ve come to the realisation that things are broken, and I&#8217;m going to have to do things manually, if I want them to work. This is irrespective of if I run Ubuntu or Fedora. Being just an &#8220;end user&#8221; is hard, to almost impossible.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>My needs-to-work-list:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>sleep\/resume &#8211; this can also be kernel version dependant, Ubuntu has the advantage for a less aggressive release policy, but it seems Fedora is catching up with wanting to ensure laptop stuff, just works<\/li>\n<li>wifi &#8211; <tt>ipw3945d<\/tt> is my poison, and it seems that both Fedora and Ubuntu have this working out of the box (a stark improvement to previous Fedora&#8217;s where you had to get the firmware yourself). Of course, repeated sleep\/resumes tend to make WiFi die, and that just annoys me<\/li>\n<li>video out &#8211; this is hacky at best, Ubuntu works if I tweak things manually, I wonder if Fedora 8 will have this any better. Nonetheless, <tt>xrandr<\/tt> should come to my rescue<\/li>\n<li>sound &#8211; well, my laptop is my primary music listening device as well as video watching device. Ubuntu and Fedora should have this working just fine<\/li>\n<li>codecs &#8211; I need to watch DivX, play MP3s, and so on. Ubuntu provides this via Medibuntu and Fedora via Livna<\/li>\n<li>media keys &#8211; Ubuntu and Fedora should have this working fine, and GNOME in both environments is highly friendly<\/li>\n<li>virtualization &#8211; I don&#8217;t care if I end up using KVM (which is looking like what I&#8217;m going for), or Xen (no ACPI, and obviously can&#8217;t sleep\/resume), but I think I&#8217;ve had it with VMWare unless they have sensible packages. I have useless VMs sitting on my laptop now.<\/li>\n<li>fully 64-bit OS &#8211; I plan on moving on from 2GB of RAM to 4GB of RAM (its kind of cheap nowadays), and want a fully 64-bit OS. Ubuntu works, sure, but I have to have ugly chroot hacks for a 32-bit environment. Fedora just works, some say because RPM is <em>broken<\/em> but I say, if that&#8217;s the case, its <em>broken in a good way<\/em>. Mixture of 32\/64-bit rpms, are sweet<\/li>\n<li>Skype, GizmoProject &#8211; closed source, install your own, works on Ubuntu and Fedora<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>My &#8220;it&#8217;ll be nice if it worked&#8221; list:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>compiz effects &#8211; Doesn&#8217;t seem to work on Ubuntu, I wonder if Fedora will have it any better<\/li>\n<li>hibernate &#8211; not quite suspend\/resume, but it can be handy to have around<\/li>\n<li>sd\/mmc\/memory stick card reader &#8211; Doesn&#8217;t seem to work on Ubuntu (Feisty, last I tried it)<\/li>\n<li>tv out &#8211; Never tried, but if video out is this bad, I doubt s-video is any better<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I take it that&#8217;s enough ranting for today. <strong>Congratulations to the Fedora Project for releasing Fedora 8 today. I think Werewolf will be a gutsy release alright. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>And a happy Diwali\/Deepavali to all Hindus. As an aside, the number 8 is interesting &#8211; in Chinese, it loosely translates to being lucky. And November 8 2007 seems to be the &#8220;festival of light&#8221;. The only way it could&#8217;ve been any more numerically lucky is if it were released on 08-08-2008 (a day for a lot of weddings, I assume).<\/p>\n<p>I seem to enjoy asides today, so here&#8217;s another. I ran <tt>dict gutsy<\/tt>, and it has some interesting definitions:<\/p>\n<pre>  gutsy \\gutsy\\ adj.\r\n     1. marked by courage and determination in the face of\r\n        difficulties or danger.\r\n       Syn: courageous, plucky.\r\n      2. rough or plain; not sophisticated or refined; earthy.\r\n        Opposite of {sophisticated}, or {refined}.\r\n       Syn: earthy, lusty, robust.<\/pre>\n<p>I wonder if, definition-wise, Gutsy Werewolf is #1 and the Gutsy Gibbon is #2?<\/p>\n<p>Technorati Tags: <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/fedora\" class=\"performancingtags\" rel=\"tag\">fedora<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/ubuntu\" class=\"performancingtags\" rel=\"tag\">ubuntu<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/gutsy%20gibbon\" class=\"performancingtags\" rel=\"tag\">gutsy gibbon<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/gutsy%20werewolf\" class=\"performancingtags\" rel=\"tag\">gutsy werewolf<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/ubuntu\" class=\"performancingtags\" rel=\"tag\">ubuntu<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/commercial%20repository\" class=\"performancingtags\" rel=\"tag\">commercial repository<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/virtualization\" class=\"performancingtags\" rel=\"tag\">virtualization<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/everything%27s%20broken\" class=\"performancingtags\" rel=\"tag\">everything&#8217;s broken<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/linux%20on%20laptops\" class=\"performancingtags\" rel=\"tag\">linux on laptops<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/werewolf\" class=\"performancingtags\" rel=\"tag\">werewolf<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the reasons I like Ubuntu is because they have a really swanky commercial repository, and they make it easy for me to get some commercial software, without pulling an RMS-styled &#8220;Freedom is a feature&#8221; on me. 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