Archive for April 2004

New box; Evolution backups

Yay, Fedora installed super-quickly on the spanking new box that I have here – the new albus. Everything “just works”, just think I’m missing the PC speaker sound – could be an hardware issue, but I’m back to using a desktop again.

Evolution is a bit of a pain I guess – I moved ~/evolution from my laptop to the desktop, and to make sure all is really well, you should perform “evolution --force-shutdown” first and then backup ~/.gconf/apps/evolution as well. Seems to be a real FAQ on the lists, with repeated introductions of how tar works too. Someone should come up with a “sync Evolution” script, so things work seamlessly on say a laptop/desktop kinda use case.

Fedora News Updates #10

Bumper issue of FNU #10 – second largest in filesize so far, and its now #10!

In this issue, the fedora-desktop list comes alive, there’s some useful visible documentation available, possibilities for new configuration tools, and the fact that a new version of yum needs testing. There’s also an interview with Dams, more SELinux and Core 2 test2 notes, as well as some interesting software packages.

Happy Birthday Celia!

OOo people movements

Sam Hiser has resigned as lead of the Marketing project. It’s great to know its not goodbye, he was a great lead, and a great person, and its great to know he’ll still be around! Jacqueline McNally takes over as lead (I think the vote is usable), and now there’s room for a co-Lead. Meanwhile, Daniel Carrera is now co-Lead for the Documentation project – interesting things can now happen, I’m sure.

Planet MYOSS

We now have Planet MYOSS, which will encourage the Malaysian Open Source Community to participate further in FLOSS (hopefully). This planet represents a country and not a project, so I think this is going to be kind of interesting – in due time, I hope we have dual-language bloggers, if not more (so far, we’re feeding mainly English and we’ve had one Chinese one).l10n folk doing stuff for ms_MY should start blogging about their efforts; contacting LUGs is fun too (PLUG bounces).

IRC channel has taken off quite well, around twenty+ folk who chit-chat. Do Malaysians really have the most sex? Might explain why admins are sleeping on the job – Linux isn’t secure out of the box, it has to be kept secure (just like Windows, folk)

Politics in the open source world

Two projects dear to my heart – OpenOffice.org and The Fedora Project. Two projects filled with endless politics. A brief history – OOo is fairly well established, 3 odd years in the running, established leadership for groups, and so on; a project that still has many Sun employees and community folk working hand-in-hand.

Contrast that to the Fedora Project – based on the well-established RHL, about 8 months in the running, no established leadership outside of Red Hat, and some community working hand-in-hand, but not being pleased. Since its in its infancy, this can be allowed for to some degree, but this has to be remedied as quickly as possible.

OOo works by having a governing body, the Community Council; there are elected members both from Sun and the community, and they meet regularly. We also have the Sun/OOo joint marketing folk, as some would notice on CC’s to the marketing list. Fedora has a great Leadership Draft (currently at II) that mkj wrote before he left. There’s a Technical Lead (aka Community Manager in OOo terms), a Steering Committee (this is to make sure RH still looks good – equivalent to the Sun members in the CC). So what we’re really lacking is a visible Technical Committee, aka a release team (by GNOME standards); OOo makes decisions based on what Hamburg say as well as what the CC says.

The Fedora leadership guidelines are clear, I guess all we need are leaders. OpenOffice.org’s one, while clear, still leaves room for dispute, again to be solved by the CC. This is where the Fedora leadership stands out – you’re not a “leader” forever, so participate, as its “not a lifetime appointment” – we need to make that clear with OOo, but I’m sure we’re learning. So, the Fedora Project ought to start learning:

  1. Leadership – we need the members of the technical committee, release team and merge team to step up and be officially recognised – this way doing things becomes easier. Currently its just disorganised and haphazard. This must be done in accordance with FC2 otherwise the community will lose interest in Fedora’s stability as an open source project. We need the leader to be more active – the Community Manager @ OOo definitely is.
  2. CVS access – its never easy, and Sun/OOo worked this out by having folks sign legal documents, known as the Joint Copyright Assignment. I think Fedora contributors won’t mind signing this (though a hat or two will make it come under fire), as Red Hat might want to use some of the stuff in RHEL. Time frame for this could be assigned during FC2 or right after FC2 gets released, so that the “leaders” can be seen doing some work.
  3. Repositories – we need Extras/Alternatives sorted as well. There is a lack in direction for this at the moment, and it should be announced before FC3 at the latest.
  4. PR/Marketing – Fedora is not a dumping ground for broken software; this mindset has to change. Remember, its not “live Rawhide” for RHEL – new technologies yes, but high quality software – the objectives make a lot of sense. We need to market this correctly, as even some RH employees think Fedora is the “beta testing ground” at RH (I met one in person that said this to me outright). Fedora cares about the desktop too, really.

Other issues like getting a build system, QA of packages, fiddling with internal RFE’s can be again solved when the leadership is out. At least there will be a voice, a voice representating the community.. And as luck might have it, just after its third year of existence, Sun decided to support OpenOffice.org officially – this is a step that Red Hat might take, rather than creating an entirely new (cheaper) desktop system.

We’re all learning, and as a community we’re growing. Let’s make something good out of this and show our strength.

Note: Dealing with the individual developers is a joy! Everyone at RH is very friendly, and those working on Fedora just plainly rock. So a kudos to all of them out there. (this applies for Sun’s developers on OOo too!) This is just a call to make the Fedora project better and make things clearer so that the general community thinks seriously about Fedora. We’re meant to be a mature project, so we’re maturing over time.

And in OOo’s case, we should heed advice that leadership isn’t a lifetime job. You own a project today, tomorrow it can be someone else’s. C’est la vie.

Malaysian Linux scene

While using jhbuild to build GNOME is cool, some might find using GARNOME better. Dan Daggett has scripted up his experiences of building GNOME 2.6 with GARNOME.

Figured the Malaysian Linux scene needed a little boost, so #myoss is born (on irc.freenode.net). All Malaysians in the open source community should join, participate, at least for some real-time chit-chat. The list is good, but IRC just gives that further interaction. Seems there’s International Open Source Meetup Day in KL – we apparently have on in Melbourne too.

Jeremy has posted some anaconda screenshots for ms_MY – these are Malay language translations for a Fedora install. I think improvements are due, and now’s a good time to contribute.


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